Thank you. I have had similar situations where the horse will guard or only show minor responses while working on them. This may have been more info than you hoped for, but the fact is that there is never just one area that becomes restricted when a horse adjusting to any type of shoeing change, workload or rider change etc. Good luck and hope to see you at a future seminar to learn more that will help you with your horses. As far as the hoof, joint, ligament, or whatever the primary cause, the bodywork will probably not âfixâ the problem by the time it has reached a lameness stage. In bodywork, its our job to learn his language of response and release, not his job to learn about us. I found that if I lightened my touch and persist she would eventually release. I was wondering why a horse can start sweating during/after massage? Your statement that she seemed bored, if itâs what I think, is probably her getting into the âzoneâ. Some of the misunderstanding may come from reading licking and chewing in the context of training. If you have a choice, turnout is best. So, no worries! They may be guarding (hiding) the area but they canât stop themselves from blinking. I think if you keep working on him, eventually he will get the idea, just hold him under the knee if need be with both hands and see if you can let it down. My theory (the world according to Jim) is that, for survival reasons, horses are genetically programmed to hide weakness or pain, as those will be the ones picked out by the predator. Can you explain how to deal with cold back? The flehmen response is normally the horses way of taking in a scent they are not used to, in this case you may pay more attention to the licking and chewing, shakingÂ the head etc.Â This sounds like you got a really good release, well done. The job of the ascending pectorals is to abduct the limb and stabilize the shoulder joint, meaning to balance the limb. I found with an old horse I worked with who hated anything that he thought resembled Chiropractic work and if I did small sections, very slow and mixed it with brushing or some sort of daily routine, he accepted it, or at least he didnât realize it was happening. Hi, I need some advice about this mare. So releasing tension here would be helpful. In this case, using bodywork to relieve the tension or discomfort may cause a change in the head-shaking. With best wishes. What causes this and which Masterson moves are most beneficial? I was working on a horse this winter that refused to yawn. I have been watching your DVD and started today, it blew my socks off. Short answer: The stress release is the physical tension that the horseâs body is releasing as a result of the bodywork. Most massage technicians find that after learning The Masterson Method, they rarely use any other modality. Itâs not clear exactly what muscles are involved as the sacroiliac and sacrolumbar junction is huge with very deep and (normally) inaccessible muscles, but when using this type of bodywork we can get feedback from the horse in the form of responses and releases during the bodywork that shows us where the horse is releasing tension. This behavior even extends even to signs of submission, as they are always working out the pecking order amongst themselves. This includes muscles spasms (as I have personally witnessed many times) and hardened tissues. If there is neurogenic atrophy, the prognosis is guarded. They hide (guard) where they are uncomfortable and we want to find those areas to relieve tension. Has anyone experienced this before? If we do this long enough, then the horseâs parasympathetic nervous system starts to take over (rest/recovery/healing) and the horse letâs go of the tension and licks and chews. So called the vet he checked her out completely, short of x-rays. I work a 20 year old thoroughbred who nods his need a lot for the first 15 to 20 minutes of trot. In my experience, bodywork reduces the cribbing but they will always want their âcigaretteâ after they eat or get anxious. I got a LOT of good releases from this move. I have a 5 year old QH gelding with a bone chip located just outside the joint on his left stifle, as confirmed by xrays. I was using the head up for the poll and two different times during the treatment my horse displayed the flehmen response. So as the horse feels the âglitchâ and then starts to pull up, go with him and even support him and then slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly put the foot down. . You could be on to something! I donât know. Often as bodywork progresses the horse will get softer and mellower, often just staring into spaceâ¦this is what we call processing; the nervous system is processing the changes. To maximize your investments I see benefits to bodywork both before and/or after your equine sees the farrier.Often a horse that is difficult for the farrier is more relaxed in their body after receiving Masterson Method bodywork & that helps for an easier trim or shoeing, a more positive experience for your equine. Find an Advanced 5-Day Course youâd like to attend here. The horse â 16â2, 16 yr old OTTB/Show Jumper/Dressager â who Iâve had for about a year and have slowly been rehabilitating physically and mentally. Good work on finding a work around. sound. (it is more important to listen to your horse than to be exactly on a certain point).You will be more effective with your work by always listening, going lighter and saying through your body language âwell, if not this , how about we try this?â. I think the RN in me wanted to heal him more than sell him. Completed the session. Watch the horse, if he can relax with this I would continue to move the leg around in different positions ( I like to use the term âfollow the legâ as we never âtake âa leg out anywhere when it is not relaxed. My vet â who is very open to bodywork and knows of the Masterson Method â advised me to do bodywork and massage Yogiâs hind end. I call this the âSweat Barrier.â Some horses break a sweat easily, some only after getting really agitated or as Jim calls it âfidgety.â When we use the Thermotex Infra-red diode blanket we go until we get sweating, even in the winter. Naturally I assume her back and hips must also be sore. They are much less sensitive to being disrupted than the TBs. Iâve got a few questions that I would like to run by you. Â Something you can do to help alleviate some stress and tension is find the Â temporomandibular joint and very lightly hold your fingers over that joint, watch for blinks from the horse and hold there until the horse responses with a release.Â By lightly, meaning air gap touch, which would be barely touching the hairs on the joint to egg yolk touch, which would be the amount of pressure you need to break the yoke of an egg when you are on the spot where the horse is holding tension in the joint they will blink, if you arenât sure move away from the spot and come back and watch for the blink again, this should be consistent with where there is tension in the joint and your direct contact with the point.Â Releases from the horse would be licking and chewing, dropping their head, eyes half closing, sometimes yawning. I donât see the food or eating being a result of bodywork, just that this horse is an overzealous eater and gets excited at meal time, have known a few like this. You will start to get big releases. He was moving around a lot a grinding his teeth. He has always had some soundness issues, shoulder being one, but the major ones have been dealt with. It looks like you have a great start! After all surgery, it is best to check with the attending vet before having bodywork done. release pain and tension in the body associated with these. I cannot find any problems with her back, she is not difficult to touch around the girth area, no signs of unsoundness, saddle fits etc. Meaning they turn their head away like they are looking at something. Let him lead you. Also, if there was a loss of blood supply healing of the damaged area is usually diminished. I have bought your DVD, watched YouTube, and get your newsletter.Â I have been trying my âamateurâ body work on my 6 year old Appendix mare and it is amazing!Â The feedback I get from her is text book.Â Itâs like actually having a conversation with her.Â I canât even explain the feeling when she falls asleep in my arms. Is there anything I can do to help him overcome this dangerous behavior as he goes through treatment? Your input would be appreciated especially as I am just starting out absorbing your material! As they start to feel it in their hind end. _____ Pros: -Super comfortable and light. Then I wonder if some hind end problem might cause enough shoulder and neck tension and âon the forehandâ movement to cause the foot/lower leg pain? I like the idea of working with the horse and not causing undo pain, looking for pain, to a horse that is already Ouchy. Sometimes too, they will do this if they have reached saturation and are done with you. So try this and see if it works for you. Also, a kick can be the culprit. The bodyworker feels the rope walking will correct, the vet doesnât think it willâ¦what is your thought?? He is so quick that I donât have a chance to see if he has actually dropped his scapula at all. YouTube TV is a subscription streaming service that lets you watch live TV from major broadcast and popular cable networks. Thatâs a long day for ascending pectorals!!! This comfort treatment is every day. I have been working on any horse I can get my hands on and teaching the owners about your methods. But if you feel the need to do something, do the Bladder Meridian Technique without touching him. Even then his reaction is not violent or dangerous, just slightly noticeable and uncomfortable. If he gets real fidgety, that is a response and there is probably pain or restriction in that correlating location. I have only just started watching your DVD and just started practicing your method, most excited to see the signs of releasing with not pressure at all. I decided to step away and let her lick as much and as long as he wanted, which ended up being many minutes. When I get a response I just STAY. I am not sure what happened, based on what it looks like and the scar from the stitches, it looks like something penetrated his shoulder (fence or pole maybe). I talk a little more about this, and some things you can do to help this, in âMystery Hind End Lamenessâ articles under In the News section on our web site. The short answer is to go by what the horse is telling you. And, remember, what you do on the front end will affect the hind end and visa versa, so switch up where you work if you donât have time to do a complete session. It sounds from her behavior that sheâs not yet feeling as bad as your description of her jaws sounds. If so, what exactly should I feel? She also curls towards me as I do the foreleg stretches as shown on Jimâs vid and really stretches her neck down. Iâm in Bristol England now, and at our seminar here yesterday a young lady did the entire bladder meridian on the hind end of a rescue horse with her hand at least a foot away, because thatâs all the horse could handle. Yesterday I worked on a 20 yr. old Quarter horse mare that has done a lot of ranch work. Keep up the good work! Hi Linda, Thanks for your question! You should be able to tell when what you are working on doesnât need as much, and then you can back off, or move on to another area that still needs work. Like all of The Masterson Method techniques, following the horse is your best bet (and the answer to most questions). I have heard Jim say it is reactive point that is foot related? Working with another mare who was more in tune with what I was doing, I found her to be more sensitive the second time I attempted the bladder meridian technique. The Masterson Method isnât going to cure side bone or hocks, but it will; As far as the pregnancy, itâs near the middle of the term; the safest time. In the âDressage Movements Revealedâ when Jim was working on the lumbar area and the horse was giving pain reactions, is where my question is directed. I heard the same advice from a physiotherapist who works with race horses in Kentucky, while at an internship at Kesmarc Equine Rehab center last year. When I massaged up by her sacroiliac joint on the tuber sacrales of the croup, I got very noticeable quivering in the quadriceps muscle. The benefit from this bodywork is relaxation. Restriction also puts more stress on other parts of the body in the form of overloading, and pain shifts the load to other areas due to compensation. Donât stay as long as that on one spot. Eventually you may be able to increase lifting his feet. All it did was knock off some hair. We canât cause the horse to relax. Would there be another meaning for this point? He is five and very much in training and so a couple of times a week after a ridden training session I perform The Bladder Meridian Technique on him and as he appears usually the most uncomfortable in his neck I usually follow up with some Lateral Cervical Flexion. Most TBs canât tolerate racing more than once a month, while the SBs will go every week and are trained and warmed up in a much more vigorous way than TBs. This behavior even extends even to signs of submission, as they are always working out the pecking order amongst themselves. I usually let the horse eat, if we are interrupted by feeding time. He may start to walk, turn and look at something, try to scratch his leg, anything can be a fidget. His instincts have told him to cover up and even block it out pain, but once we bring his attention back to it in a way that doesnât excite the survival/bracing response, then it probably feels pretty good to him to let it go. Regarding the hind end, the muscle quivering is nothing to worry about. She has lumber pain and has shown a lack of forward movement when ridden, wonât leave walk to trot comfortably and definitely wonât canter. If youâre getting results from the video, some hands-on techniques will really get you going. Or, just place your hands as if you were going to do Lateral Cervical Flexionâ¦so very lightlyâ¦and do nothing. May your horse be with you,ââ¨Loni Langdonâ¨MMCP, Mentor, Coach, Instructor. Or another example; if you relieve pain or restriction in an area, and when the horse continues working you find that the pain and restriction returns, you need to focus on what might be causing the pain. She was off while it was healing and it left her a little short stride. She does have a mild âclubâ foot on the right. The C7/T1 vertebrae junction is located under the scapula, which is held on to the body with only muscles and tendons/ligaments there is not âcollar boneâ to attach the front leg to the rest of the skeleton, and this junction can get âstuckâ and we do have a technique that lets us get to that junction to help release it. Question: You never know where the horse is holding tension, but the Masterson Method is like peeling an onion, you just peel one layer off at a time. Try it in his lower back area, the flanks, and under the belly and see what he says. He will pull up, paw forward and walk sideways to avoid his front feet being held. I would like feedback on charging clients. I tried to help one of the mares in our care who spends her days with her ears pinned back. With TBs I stopped working on them (even lightly) on the day of their race because they always ran terribly when I did. but I will take your advise and keep moving even if that spot is not âfixedâ. Prior to riding, you might consider the Leg Forward and Leg Back technique, making sure not to stretch the leg, but to allow the shoulder to drop. After you release the scapula and get rid of the pectoral pain, palpate for pain in the withers area or wiggle the withers to look for a reaction. Actually, the Masterson Method is unique and quite different from equine massage. You donât want him to break anything in the stall, and pulling back on something hard is often the cause of poll problems to start with. That all said, you have to take the whole picture into account before getting too worried about a foot problem. If the horse is used to having bodywork now then youâll know how she responds as it gets closer to the end of the term. over all of the pectorals, up the cervicals and over the withers. It will give you specific tools and a way to work your way through the book that will help â even if you have taken a seminar. Iâm too gun-shy from my experience with the TBs to work on them the day of the race. The idea is to let the horseâs body move and feel whatâs been released.If your horse needs to be ridden, give him as easy a ride as possible. If you don’t find the answer to your equine bodywork questions, please contact usÂ to submit a question. A no-show, a cancellation, a disinvite, the pettiest excuse to put one off is a … If you are working on the horse that is mouthy or nippy, then tie him with enough room to bend and flex as much as he can without reaching you. I am wondering, if he had Sweeney shoulder, but it was never diagnosed and not treated properly, would light work benefit it? Itâs good to work really, really light, but also read in the book about the second part of the equation which is more movement rather than light work. Sometimes the horse will just tell you that he has had enough. What is the best thing for the horse after a bodywork session? On the lateral rocking, you want to stay under his bracing response, so look for the gentlest of rocking. I went back to rocking the back; again he became too fidgety. If it is too heavy, then donât even try. I donât know who the guy was who was unfortunate enough to have his name attached to the condition, but thatâs what it was called. Iâm thrilled to tell you that he has gone from moving stiffly to moving freely and beautifully under saddle- no ear pinning or grinding his teeth. I would concentrate on the 3 Key junctions, as you release from the top, the lower legs will benefit and eventually he will feel comfortable to balance and pick up his feet. You need to focus on the right poll, neck/shoulder/withers junction, and left hind to help your lead-change problem. One would ask why he is head shy. technique with the horse? If the horse starts to limp at the first sign of discomfort then it becomes a target for the predator. is that even though horses always blink, twitch, stretch, yawn, etc, for whatever reason, what we are looking for as we do our work on the horse is the correlation between the response or behavior, and what we are doing with the horse with our hands in that moment. She was very touchy about her poll area. I also check the regularity and âalignmentâ of all ribs, just gently gliding my hand from front to back over the rib cage to see if any rib creates a âspeed bumpâ. Has old back injury near junction of thoracic and lumbar vertebrae (slight visible dip/ledge) Recent RF tendon injury (no bow) Recently pulled all 4 shoes because of hoof wall damage from nail holes (and many other reasons, which arenât relevant here) Very slow hoof growth, so the last time the RF heel was trimmed was 4 weeks before the tendon injury, and the trimmer didnât want to take too much off the heel because we didnât want to blow out the tendon (we have a plan going forward to rasp frequently but in very slight increments, to bring the heel down very SLOWLY to give the tendon time to stretch) Because of all the recent changes, the heel that is probably twice the length of ânormalâ for him, is shoving his right shoulder UP, limiting his movement, and I havenât been able to do the scapula release on that side yet. If the horse tries to nibble, donât let him reach you. It is not a stretch. Itâs like an onion, you peel it off in layers, but with no agenda. But the misunderstanding is that stress isnât the bodywork, as anyone who is watching our type of bodywork can tell from the horse. When the feed is given to him, he dives right in, but if heâs distracted and picks his head up, he eats with the food falling out of his mouth â teeth are fine. 1 1/2 man hands across her top line and spreading to 1/2 hand down. Head tossing can have numerous root causes, best explored with the help of a vet. As for your explanation this occurs after you ask for a lead on the left and he drops his shoulders I would definitely examine his feet and legs all the way up. I just keep egg yolk or air gap pressure on that same spot and STAY and wait for the RELEASE. Never still etc. You can search for responses anywhere on the horseâs body using the same Search, Response, Stay, Release process. Another note is that while big releases can happen anywhere on the body, often the rear is slightly less reactive, especially in some breeds like draft, and ponies. You probably released something large, and as you said, she has a lot of issues. The specially made tabletop features high durability, heavy-duty and sturdy, heavy load capacity. He also stated that she was very nice to ride (Note: The current owner is a trainer who wanted a quiet horse for him to teach beginners on). Thanks a lot for your help! However, we are looking at gut sounds in the context of bodywork and you will want to interpret anything the horse shows you in correlation to other signals, such as facial expression, position of ears, tension/relaxation of lips and muzzle, etc. Watch as much as you want, anytime you want. I just use the heat of my hand and the focus of my attention and the horseâs attention to do the work. I do get him by his toe but Bear isnât interested in bringing the leg up at all, he just wants his leg out. There was only one area that seemed restricted. If relieving tension alleviates the head-shaking, then physical tension was probably causing it. Mild nerve damage should recover in 6-8 weeks. Do you have any suggestions for my poor, depressed mare. points and be helping his head and neck! Amazingly, she has beautiful movement. But, remember to be very, very light. Of course it probably helps if you have a mellow, peaceful energy to start with! It is like their hind end has suddenly come awake and itâs probably like your leg after you cut the circulation off and you get the pins and needle feeling. Once she came back down to the ground she seemed to just disappear inside herself a bit. If you are rushed or thinking you wants to get something done, the horse can pick up on this and reflect your intensity. spot, but another that is attached to it? Remember: Search, Response (blink or twitch) Stay (stay, stay, stay, stay very lightly) until there is a Release. This may help keep the foreleg loose. Regarding the horse turning his head away, you may have noticed that some horses release easier than others. He has some history of abuse in his past, and when I got him he was distrustful of everyone and everything. Some of the muscles that may be involved are supraspinatus, infraspinatus, and triceps. Iâve never seen this before and no one on The Masterson Facebook page has answered my question about it. Iâve conât to alternate back & forth and each session is usually an hour and a half. How often should I work on my horse? That might indicate progress? #2 could be the withers. Itâs like peeling an onion, one stress at a time. Looks all good to me! He normally works out of it, sometimes he doesnât. Fidgeting is good. If you are seeing results and benefits every day with your mare, then I would do what youâre doing. I was not able to get my hand behind scapula on first try. As soon as we put roller or saddle on, he has extreme response and turns into a bucking bronco! Iâve seen it a lot when working with the Pap-IMI machine. With anything around the TMJ and the tongue, you will often see a horse start to âwobbleâ behind (meaning go from leg to leg.) Fritz Popâs pioneering research on the colors emanated by cells resulted in the development of soft lasers for physical therapy application. The responses might change, and the places that you get responses might change. Doubt the doubt! On the left side, gently put your hand, or fingertips, on the hip point and just rest it there for a while, without pushing. Perhaps you may want to spread out your bodywork, especially if the horse has no major issues, and yes they can get sore after bodywork, but itâs not from that they get sore. Watch anywhere, anytime, on an unlimited number of devices. We are almost done with his 2nd time on Ulcer Guard but Iâm not convinced it will work. Can this equine bodywork method help my performance horse to relax? Do you have any specific techniques or advice for horses that have sustained nerve damage and as a consequence have poor proprioceptive and are not using correct muscles for the job. In the MM âless is more and softer and lighter.â So you are seeing how effective the technique is. With SBs you can get away with a lot more. The same thingâ¦.if he gives a lot of responses or appears uncomfortable when you put your hand up where the ligament damage showed up. It is possible that your front work was so effective that she just needed some time to work it all out & her nervous system was still sorting it out. Are there any specific techniques I should focus on? Breath, relax and follow the blinks! The second is what, if any, techniques should I try for his stomach. (peronally I donât believe this) however it is very difficult to explain to people about this. Before charging, itâs best to become certified. If you donât already have the Beyond Horse Massage DVD and book, then you might want to start there. If you can keep weight on her then the important thing is that sheâs not in pain. Issues from front foot soreness will travel throughout the body as the horse will likely brace and compensate adjacent soft tissue in order to shift his weight away from those feet. And, remember, fidgeting is part of the process. He is also very different when I am around. In bodywork we must connect with the horse on his level, below the bracing response that he uses to shield himself against the world. I worked on a horse. I was working with a horse yesterday that had a lot of large releases just by working the bladder meridian. The shoulder will look like it is slipping. She throws a fit. I use the system; Search, Response, Stay Release, which works well. Long term pain creates restriction. If he takes it in stride, you might take his lead on this. I would try doing a full bodywork session on him of Bladder Meridian â at least on one side and see where the blinks are and if you get smaller releases as you go. I adopted a BLM burro last fall and have been using the MM on him. Good idea? He got his offside hind stuck between timber and wire and was very hyper flexed while pulling very hard during the processâ¦ He is doing very well with healing but Iâd like to help him release tension in the hind endâ¦ He has always been âbusyâ with his legs when you are trying to do anything (pick out hooves, trim hooves etc), and with one leg not as strong he is a little more reluctant to offer his legsâ¦ Any suggestions to âtrainingâ the horse to relax and offer their legs for this type of âquietâ movement that is needed. A change in the front end my pocketbook will permit yawning, etc )... Response, which it is possible to intentionally work with the nervous system and also under the bracing.... 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